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FAQ Tag: Supply (Page 1 of 2)

Rule 22: Are intrinsic AA values affected by being out of supply?

Question:
Are intrinsic AA values affected by being out of supply?

Answer:
Intrinsic map features are not units, therefore they are not affected by supply; intrinsic AA strengths of units are affected by supply, since they are a component of the unit, which is affected by supply.

The supply rules specify that they affect the abilities of units in movement and combat; there is no mention of it affecting the abilities of map features.

Source:
TEM 67

 

Rule 22: Are position AA counters “ground units” for purposes of supply?

Question:
Are position AA counters “ground units” for purposes of supply? In both SF and WitD position AA units are defined as having “neither a printed combat strength nor a unit size… Position AA units function somewhat differently than do regular combat units.” Therefore, are position AA values affected by being out of supply?

Answer:
Yes.

Source:
TEM 67

 

Rule 12C2: Naval Element of tracing Supply

Question:
The final sentence of this rule seems to contradict the previous one. If in order to function as a limited supply source a standard or minor port must trace a naval element supply line to a major or great port, what does the last sentence of this rule mean when it states,”…supply line may be traced from a minor or standard port.”?

Answer:
The last sentence allows you to trace a naval supply line from a standard/minor port; it has nothing to do with tracing the line to a major/great port. Instead, see Rule 12B4, which governs naval supply lines and says you have to trace from a major/great port. 12B4/12C1 is the general case, allowing both sides to get full regular supply via naval supply lines. 12C2 is the special case for the Allies, allowing them to get limited regular supply by using ports that don’t make the cut for 12B4/12C1.

Source:
TEM 38/39

 

Rule 12C: Drawing Supply from the Ruhr

Question:
Can German units in the Ruhr cities draw supply from the cities themselves or must the the cities of the Ruhr be connected by rail to another najor city in Germany?

Answer:
Per rule 3E2 a combination of adjacent full and/or partial city hexes is considered a conurbation and thereforeone city for game purposes. So you must be able to trace a rail connection from the Ruhr to another major city in Germany for the Ruhr to be a source of supply. Note that the supply rules specify major cities and not major city hexes.

Source:
TEM 66

 

Rule 12: Tracing Supply for Units loaded on Naval Units

Question:
If units start a turn loaded on transports in port, are they in supply? This is significant, because if the answer is yes, then Allied troops can start the game loaded in transports for a turn 1 invasion of southern France (the extra 30 NMPs are needed.)

Answer:
Units embarked upon ships trace supply by the normal rules, so if they are in a port hex and the NT/LC is in port (not at sea in the hex) then, yes, they are in supply. Note also that for your first turn invasion, the units and NT/LCs they are embarked upon could be set up in the North Africa Holding box at start, they needn’t be deployed at separate ports on the map. Also note that since they are already embarked, port capacity is not an issue; all of your NT/LCs, along with anyone they are transporting, could be placed, for example, at Bougie during the initial phase and carry out their invasion from there. The fact that Bougie is only a minor port is immaterial. Note also that any units embarked upon NT/LC could remain in the North Africa Holding Box, or any on-map port, and remain in supply from turn to turn, indefinitely.

Source:
TEM 49

 

Rule 12: Are ground units on ships in supply?

Question:
Are ground units on ships in supply?

Answer:
The regular supply rules govern the supply of ground units, even when they are embarked on board ships. Note that in some cases units will become unsupplied when on board ships. For example, a unit embarks upon a NT and ends its turn at sea. In the next player turn, the unit becomes out of supply, since there is no way it can trace a supply line to a supply source. If the NT is in port, however, then an embarked unit on board may be able to trace supply, per Rule 12.

If this seems a bit odd, it works this way to prevent game abuses, such as embarking units on ships to establish a permanently-in-supply “floating reserve” or other silly things.

Source:
TEM 38/39

 

Rule 12: How long does a turn out of Supply last?

Question:
Does a turn out of supply in SF consists of two player turns?

Answer:
A turn out of supply in SF is one game turn, consisting of an Axis player turn followed by an Allied player turn.

Example: An Italian unit is put out of supply during the Jul I 43 Allied player turn. When supply is checked during the initial phase of the Axis Jul II turn, that Italian unit is noted as being out of supply and gets a U-1 marker (I use red for Axis turns).

During the Allied Jul II player turn the unit remains out of supply.

The Italian unit has now spent one turn out of supply (Axis and Allied player turns). If, during the Axis Initial phase of Aug 1, the Italian unit is still unsupplied at that time, it will be marked with a U-2 marker and is affected by all effects of being U-2’d from that instant on, until it is no longer unsupplied, is eliminated or (during the Axis Aug II initial phase) is marked with a U-3 marker for remaining out of supply.

Source:
TEM 59/60

Air Units and Supply

Question:
In FitE/SE,  what happens to air units surrounded in a
pocket, and the pocket is out of supply?
Supply rules just say units, with special supply listing an RE amount
that can be carried by aircraft, but aircraft only have an RE Equivalent
listed in the Section on German’s operating in Finland, where each air
unit counts as one RE.

Answer:
Air units didn’t need supply until an optional rule was introduced in
WW. So if using FitE/SE, just ignore them for supply calculations.
They never run out of supply.

Source:
Posted by Bill Jenman (bill.jenman@gmail.com) on the EuropaAssociation Mailing list at Yahoo, April 21st, 2015

 

Finnish Units in Petsamo

Question:
Are Finnish units that set up in Petsamo out of supply?
Answer:
Yes, at least until Allied intervention
Source:
Posted by Gary J. Stagliano (EuropaStag@aol.com) on the Europa Mailing List, 2001

Soviet Supply Lines

Question: 

Can the Finnish/Soviet Player trace road supply over hexside 1513/1514
(Lake Hexside) as there is no bridge at that location?

Answer:

Both Players may trace road supply over that narrow straight hexside even
though the road does not cross the hexside as in hexside 3717/3718, for
example. Think of it this way in warm weather there is a ferry present and
in cold weather the lake is frozen and units can just drive accross. A road
element Line of supply can also be traced accross 1304/1404 but NOT 1303/1402
as the transportation line does not point to that particular hexside.

Source:

Posted by Gary J. Stagliano (EuropaStag@aol.com) on the Europa Mailing List, 2001

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