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Rule 14J: Stacking Transport Counters and Units on LC

Question:
What if the counter is on the LC with the units it wants to motorize? And what if the counter (and eventually the unit it wants to motorize) is on AT and still requires to be transferred to the LC for disembarking on the beach?

Answer:
In these cases, the unit/s and transport counters are stacked together and could move as one unit. The unit would pay c/m costs for disembarking and could move from the beach if it has sufficient MPs.

Source:
TEM 59/60

 

Rule 14J, Use of transport Counters during Exploitation Phase

Question:
The Allied player aims to execute some overrun in the exploitation phase after an amphibious landing, using a transport counter. Rule 14J requires the units to be stacked with the counter at the start of the phase, while the counter can disembark from the LC not before the start of the naval subphase of the exploitation phase. Does this mean that the allied player cannot use the counter to motorize the units already on the beach (those that executed the amphibious landing)?

Answer:
Correct. If the transport counter is on the LCs and the unit is on the beaches, they are not really stacked together and the transport counter may NOT motorize that unit. []

Source:
TEM 59/60

 

Rule 14J: Character of Transport Counters

Question:
I am curious though, why the LVT and APC counters make units combat/motorized, but the transport counters do not. This does seem to create a problem for the Americans in 1943, since they cannot form large stacks of full AEC/ATEC units.

Answer:
Transport counters represent trucks, with which the units are not used to co-operating regularly and mostly serve to get the units to the battlefield; think of a transport counter as a bus. APCs and LVT represent armored vehicles — “defrocked Priests”, Kangaroos, and the like for APCs, and Buffaloes for the LVTs. Units were meant to operate on the battlefield closely with these vehicles, hence the AEC/ATEC effects. And considering the number of c/m sub-divisional units and armored divisions running around, I have never found any of my opponents not being able to form large c/m stacks with the Allies…

Source:
TEM 53

 

Rule 14J: ATEC/AEC effects of Transport Counters

Question:
Are units being carried by transport counters considered to be ATEC/AEC neutral? I checked in the UIC and I don’t see anything listed. This would be important if you wanted to form armored corps that contained motorized infantry units.

Answer:
See Rule 14I which details how movement counters work. Note that transport counters may not carry units during a combat phase, thus they have no effect upon AEC/ATEC calculations during combat phases.

LVTs and APCs may carry units during combat phases and their individual effects upon AEC/ATEC are clearly listed in the rules; that is: units carried by APCs are considered combat/motorized and mechanized and units carried by LVTs are considered combat/motorized.

Source:
TEM 53

 

Rule 14J: RE Equivalent of Transport Counter carrying unit

Question:
When a transport counter (3 REs capacity) is carrying an infantry division, is it treated as having a 5 RE size for naval transport purposes or as having a 2 RE size (thinking the assets and men of the division are aboard of the truck and so are not occupying space on the ship or LVT)?

Answer:
A Transport counter is a separate unit and must be transported as a separate cargo load. So, using your example, the Inf XX would count for 3 REs and the transport counter would count for 2 REs (I RE, but doubled for being c/m). They are not considered to be a single unit.

Source:
TEM 49

 

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